My favorite pair of shorts: perfect length, material is stretchy and fit is great!
Pricey, but when you wear them, you feel the durability. As casual-wear, they look good, feel good, fit good. On the bike, I can't really report as I've only gone on one ride. I was somewhere between a 30" and a 32" (I'm 6', 165 lbs and generally wear pants at 30" and 32"). I ordered the 32"—to be on the safe side and also because it was the only one in stock—and it fits my quads perfectly, but my waist is almost perfect with a belt. I'm planning on wearing sage as my casual short, and getting a 30" in the darker shades when they become available.
These shorts fit great over my bib for MTB rides. They seem to have the same high quality of fabric and seams as Kitsbow shorts, but the shorter length and slightly lighter fabric will be preferable when the weather warms up. Within a couple years, I'll probably have all my Chinese cycle clothing replaced with quality domestic stuff.
These are a great pair of casual shorts, that are perfect for a day out in the woods or a day around town. A relatively short inseam (compared to what lot's of other shorts offer), allow great freedom of movement. The fabric is soft, stretchy and comfy, while at the same time feeling tough enough to survive bushwhacking and trail maintenance. The details are just about right too, with nicely sized and arranged front and rear pockets (one zipped), well thought out belt loops, zippers and button closure. All in all, I love these!!!!!